Episode 213
EO: 213 Communicating the Science of Vaccines to Parents with Dr. Buddy Creech
Disclosures:
Dr. Creech has disclosures of grant funding from NIH, CDC, Moderna, Pfizer and has been a consultant for Merck, Sanofi Paseur, TD. Cowen. Guidepoint Global, GSK, Delbiopharm, Dianthus, AstraZenecka and receives royalties from UpToDate
Websites:
Philadelphia Children's Hospital Vaccine Education & Resources
VUMC Children's Immunization Guide
Recommended Books:
Anxious Generation: How The Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness, Jonathan Haidt
Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion, Jonathan Haidt
Key Takeaways
RSV prevention now includes both maternal vaccination during third trimester and monoclonal antibodies for infants, both showing 60-80% reduction in hospitalizations
Hepatitis B vaccine is fundamentally a cancer prevention tool, and the birth dose is recommended at population level to prevent missed cases even when individual risk appears low
Cocooning newborns through family immunization for influenza, pertussis, RSV, and measles is critical as community vaccination rates decline
Effective vaccine conversations require avoiding shame and blame, expressing intellectual humility, asking "why" to understand concerns, and providing trusted resources rather than just education
The future of vaccine development includes improved flu vaccines requiring less frequent administration, alternative delivery methods (intranasal, oral, microneedles), and advanced tools to understand rare adverse events
While vaccine-preventable diseases like measles are increasing in pockets of under-vaccinated communities, maintaining high vaccination rates is essential to prevent widespread outbreaks of highly contagious diseases
Parents face significant peer pressure around vaccine decisions, and healthcare providers should acknowledge this while modeling respectful dialogue with those who disagree
Quotable Moments
"What is hepatitis B vaccine? It's a cancer prevention vaccine period. It prevents liver cancer. Why would I not want a cancer preventing vaccine?"
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure rather than knowing how to treat meningitis really effectively. Wouldn't it be great if we could prevent it all together?"
"I think we need to recognize that we probably want the same thing, except in extraordinarily weird situations. We both want the health of that child."
"I recognize that there is still much to learn about these things, but here's where I land."
"Vaccines and your baby's health, that's just more complicated than 140 characters."
"Measles is the second most contagious virus on the planet behind smallpox, which is eradicated. So it's the first most contagious virus on the planet."
"I want to prevent you from coughing by jabbing this metal needle into your child's thigh. Like that's weird."
"we need to find common ground. Ground. We need to be curious. We need to be intellectually humble. We need to invite conversation."
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